Five Years Out of Work

Five years after being the first to file for whistle-blower protection under Sarbanes-Oxley, former CFO David Welch has lost the family farm and his savings, and still doesn't have a job.

When David Welch became the first person to win protection under the whistle-blower provision of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act back in 2002, the former CFO of Cardinal Bancshares figured he would be back at work shortly.

“I thought everything would be fine when I filed the complaint,” he recalls. “I just wanted my job back. I enjoyed being a CFO.”

Nearly five years later, Welch is still unemployed, despite a Department of Labor ruling ordering the Floyd, Virginia-based bank to reinstate him. Last fall a U.S. district judge decided not to enforce the ruling.

Cardinal did not respond to multiple requests for comment on this story.

Welch claims he was fired from Cardinal after he raised questions about the bank’s accounting policies and internal controls, and subsequently refused to certify its financial results. The bank argued that Welch was suspended and later discharged solely because he refused to meet with Cardinal attorney Douglas Densmore, of law firm Flippin Densmore, and Michael Larrowe, an accountant whose firm was Cardinal’s external auditor, without a personal attorney.

In 2004, two years after Welch was fired, Cardinal appealed a “recommended decision and order” by DoL Administrative Law Judge Stephen Purcell to reinstate Welch as CFO and award him back pay. The bank’s appeal was denied last June by the DoL’s administrative review board.

Even so, the bank refused to comply with the DoL reinstatement order, because the original “recommendation” by Purcell to reinstate Welch was not a final order as defined by the Labor Department, according to Cardinal’s outside counsel Laura Effel at the time. Therefore, the bank would wait and see whether the DoL or Welch would take action against the company in U.S. District Court in Roanoke.

Last July Welch’s case was advanced slightly by a DoL motion to intervene that included a 13-page memorandum in support of his application for reinstatement. The support from the DoL did not seem to make a difference to the Roanoke court, however: Judge Glen Conrad said he did not have the authority to enforce the ruling by the DoL’s administrative review board since it was a preliminary action. Welch is now appealing the ruling in the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

In a telephone interview from his home in Huddleston, Virginia, Welch spoke to CFO.com contributing editor Stephen Taub about his five-year experience as the first Sarbox whistle-blower.

How have you been affected by this ordeal? Have you lost a lot of money?

Well over half a million dollars. We obliterated our savings and life insurance.

Did you lose your house?

We sold the family farm. It was my wife’s grandparents’ house, which we had bought. We then moved into a rental property in Huddleston. We recently bought an old farmhouse that was ready to be bulldozed. We spent the last couple of years renovating it ourselves.

How did you manage without your income for five years?

First, I got 13 weeks of unemployment. I didn’t come close to breaking even there. We learned to cut more on our spending. We used to go to nice restaurants. We don’t do it anymore. I drive a car with 270,000 miles — a 1996 Subaru.

Does your wife work?

Yes. She is a national bank examiner.

What would you do if you didn’t have her income?

I would have had to drop the process or go bankrupt. We have to pay our attorneys. They have to eat, too. At some point, if you need some more money, you can’t continue. If you are a whistle-blower and you have no money, you have to stop. The deep pockets of corporations can starve out an unemployed whistle-blower. If Sarbanes-Oxley had a provision that at any stage a whistle-blower’s employer must reinstate you economically, you would see more cases ending quicker. Then the employee would have money to pursue the case and the employer is writing a check every two weeks.

Have you looked for a new job through all this?

Yes. I have had numerous interviews that went very well. Then, when prospective employers began to check references, it was the end. The bank told them I was a whistle-blower. Prospective employers assumed I am not to be trusted. I have a black eye in the accounting and banking industry.

Is it your impression from these prospective employers that they’re hearing negative reports about you from Cardinal, or do you think they avoid you simply because you’re a whistle-blower?

A great deal of it was being a whistle-blower. If I am an employer, and both candidates have their CPA and master’s degree but one person is a whistle-blower and the second person is not a whistle-blower, I would want someone with a clean history. It’s like there is a bull’s-eye painted on you.

So, if you can’t get a job, what are you planning to do about money?

In 2005 I felt the only way to get a job was to change professions. I am currently working on my doctorate at Argosy University. I finish my course work in December. Next month I start as a full-time faculty member at Franklin University in Columbus, Ohio.

How did you wind up at Franklin?

I became associated with Franklin because of my whistle-blower case. I had a course with another student who turned out to be the chairman of the Department of Accounting at Franklin. He was fascinated with my experience with Sarbanes-Oxley. They were developing a forensic accounting program and ethics course. But, I needed a doctorate to get that job.

You are suddenly a whistle-blower specialist.

I taught a few courses as an adjunct at Liberty University. Also some online courses. It is rewarding to stand in front of a class and take a stand for honesty and integrity. Before you are confronted with this type of decision, you must make a choice. I can tell them I know what I am talking about. I know the cost. I have been there. When I tell the story, it hits home and has more impact. Here is someone who has paid the price but is still willing to take a stand.

Can you see yourself ever going back to Cardinal?

Up until getting the position at Franklin, I absolutely could have gone back. I am a Christian and I prayed. God opened a door to go through and closed others. If he wanted to open the door to go to Cardinal, I would have had an obligation to go there. Now the door is open at Franklin.

Let’s say they reinstated you back in October. What kind of reception would you have had?

It would have been a very hostile environment. For five years, employees have heard just one side of the story. They didn’t attend the trial or see the evidence, documentation, or proof of my position. They just heard what they were told. I imagine a lot of people believed I am a bad guy. I could imagine it would not be a comfortable situation.

What do you think of the Department of Labor?

I am confused as to why anything takes as long as this has. I don’t think OSHA is the best place for these kinds of cases to be heard. If you go to OSHA’s Website, there are something like 13 to 14 laws they are responsible for — clean water act, pollution, atomic energy act. And then Sarbanes-Oxley. They don’t have the expertise.

So, what’s next?

The bank has stated it will go to the Supreme Court with it. I can’t imagine how long that would take.

How did your co-workers react to your whistle-blower filing?

I don’t know. I did not discuss issues of fraud or my insider-trading concerns with my subordinates. I felt they were confidential.

Did they talk to you when you left?

Three or four did. They were told at a staff meeting after I was terminated they were forbidden to speak with me or provide information. Fortunately, there were people with integrity there and they maintained communications anyway.

What would you say to another CFO who was wondering whether to invoke whistle-blower protection under Sarbox?

I recommend others to do what is right. Go back to their religious beliefs — knowing what is right and not doing that is a sin. After seeing people fix financial statements, if I didn’t take a stand, that would be a sin. It will all work out eventually. If you compromise your integrity, what do you have left? Your reputation is all you have in life.

You sound at peace with yourself and your decision.

I have seen God take care of things I don’t have another explanation for. How do you survive for years without an income?

Would you do it again?

Yes. It is the right thing to do.

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